Trump’s very plausible statement about illegal votes

recount-nrd-600Here is an article from The Daily Signal, a Heritage Foundation publication that lends credence to Trump’s response to Hillary Clinton and Green Party candidate Jill Stein and their pursuit of recounts of election results in three states.  The Clinton/Stein  effort is at the very least intended as part of a PR plan to agitate in favor of ending the Electoral College system (they might as well end the Constitution it is so much a part of the warp and woof of our federal republic system of government).

No honest non-delusional liberal seriously thinks that found legitimate miscounts will change the electoral result.  The numbers are far enough apart that the deficit would require batches of found ballots, which they are not above attempting to produce. The drawback for them, something they would be willing to live with, is that the deficit is so large  that such a “discovery” would end any credibility to their effort. Nevertheless the recount effort serves as a funding pipe-line and helps keep the troops lit up (with the aid of the liberal media of course) for various purposes.

In response Trump has asserted that but for illegal votes he would have won “the popular vote.” * His statement has been ridiculed by the usual suspects including some from the conservative spectrum.  We think Trump’s assertion is more than plausible, for reasons addressed after Fred Lucas’ Daily Signal article, which we have set forth in its entirety below. Our additional comments follow.

More Than 800,000 Noncitizens May Have Voted in 2016 Election, Expert Says    

An election expert projects more than 800,000 noncitizens voted in the 2016 election and overwhelmingly for Democrat Hillary Clinton.

While substantial, that number doesn’t overcome Clinton’s 2.2 million popular vote lead over Republican President-elect Donald Trump, who won a decisive Electoral College triumph of 306 to 232.

On Sunday, the president-elect tweeted he would have won the popular vote had it not been for illegal votes cast. The Trump transition team on Monday cited nonpartisan studies on noncitizens voting and of faulty voter registration across the country. Only citizens 18 or older can legally vote.

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“Extrapolating on data from several years ago certainly doesn’t substantiate the claim that Trump is making now,” Jesse Richman, an associate professor of political science at Old Dominion University, told The Daily Signal. “That could change. If there is a recount in Michigan and Trump loses by a few votes, then it’s very plausible that noncitizen voting made a big difference. Hopefully, it doesn’t come to that.”

Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama.

Richman applied those numbers to 2016:

The basic assumptions on which the extrapolation is based are that 6.4 percent of noncitizens voted, and that of the noncitizens who voted, 81.8 percent voted for Clinton and 17.5 percent voted for Trump. … 6.4 percent turnout among the roughly 20.3 million noncitizen adults in the U.S. would add only 834,318 votes to Clinton’s popular vote margin. This is little more than a third of the total margin. … Is it plausible that noncitizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes. Is it plausible that noncitizen votes account for the entire nationwide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.

A December 2015 study led by Stephen Ansolabehere of Harvard University argued the 2014 Old Dominion study was flawed and that “the likely percent of noncitizen voters in recent U.S. elections is zero.” Richman responded to the criticism and said suggesting zero percent does not hold up.

Trump transition team spokesman Jason Miller cited the Old Dominion study reported on in The Washington Post in 2014, as well as a Pew Research Center study from 2012 about problems with voter registration across the country.

“An issues of concern is that so many have voted that are not legally supposed to,” Miller told reporters in a conference call Monday.

He said this warrants more attention than the “shiny object” Jill Stein and the Green Party are using to push recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania that have no chance of overturning the election.

Beyond the noncitizens voting study from Old Dominion, Miller pointed to the Pew study from 2012 that found 24 million voter registration records in the United States, or about 1 in 8, were “significantly inaccurate or no longer valid.”

The Pew study further found “1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters,” that “12 million records contain an incorrect address,” and that “2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.”

It would take a very high percentage of noncitizens voting to overcome the Clinton popular vote lead, said Steven Camarota, director of research for the Center for Immigration Studies, a think tank that favors strong immigration enforcement.

“If 10 percent of noncitizens voted, it would likely make a popular vote difference,” Camarota told The Daily Signal. “It’s not the Electoral College he’s upset about. It’s the popular vote. I wish he wouldn’t focus on it. Bill Clinton got just 43 percent of the vote in 1992. How many states did he win more than 50 percent of the vote in?”

Trump could be correct about the number of illegal votes, but there is no way to know, said Hans von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow with The Heritage Foundation who focuses on voter integrity issues.

“It’s possible he’s right, but we don’t know because there is no way to quantify, no system in place to identify noncitizens voting,” Spakovsky told The Daily Signal. “The Department of Justice and Department of Homeland Security should obtain state voter registration lists and check against noncitizen database. And the DOJ should start prosecuting noncitizens who are voting.”

Prosecuting voter fraud will have to be a higher priority under the Trump administration than under the Obama administration, said Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, a conservative government watchdog.

“It has got to be a priority I would think based on Mr. Trump’s rhetoric,” Fitton told The Daily Signal. “At least, make sure that only citizens are registered to vote. We need basic reforms to reassure people that elections are free and fair.”

Note that the article refers to an estimate derived from elections in 2008 and 2010.  We believe those elections had nowhere near the degree of emotion or salience attached that would prompt non-citizens to vote.  The 800,000 figure only extrapolates based on the growth in illegals, not the factors present in 2016 that would up the percentage tempted to vote illegally.  In our opinion those factors might easily double the percentage of 6.4% used for the 800,000 figure.

Think back to the concerted effort to agitate Hispanics in this country to oppose Trump.  The fear mongering was endemic.  The portrayal of what was at stake for them would increase the rationalization for Hispanic illegals as targeted to do whatever they thought they could get away with.  And Democrat policies certainly encouraged making getting away with it easy. La Raza type theorists propagandized that Mexican immigrants had a moral right to vote. And never forget that President Obama basically green-lighted illegal voting for many, removing a perceived potential downside of family members being deported.  See  Obama Appears to Encourage Illegal Alien Voting in Interview

Then consider the continued deterioration in voting integrity, although a factor, not limited to vulnerabilities in voting machinery, but in loose laws regarding registration.  Even the most stringent voter ID laws at the voting booth are of no consequence if registration laws are such that illegals are wrongfully registered and appear on the voter rolls, not to mention the tremendous vulnerability caused by absentee voting.  Now consider the other points in the article again:

Beyond the noncitizens voting study from Old Dominion, Miller pointed to the Pew study from 2012 that found 24 million voter registration records in the United States, or about 1 in 8, were “significantly inaccurate or no longer valid.”

The Pew study further found “1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters,” that “12 million records contain an incorrect address,” and that “2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.”

The combination of factors, registration of illegals, un-purged voter rolls, lax integrity procedures at the voting booth, ridiculously fraud available absentee voting laws all  combine to more than make plausible Trump’s statement. The Democrats did not think they needed trunk-fulls of  “found” ballots, they were surprised the other mechanisms were not sufficient. We will see what they come up with.

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