Video 9; Ethics of baby parts business; Republican leadership’s irresolve

Regarding latest Center for Medical Progress (CMP) undercover video by Dan Gilmore at Patriot Post (excerpt) .

Meet the StemExpress CEO, Abortion ‘Champion’ 

. . .  CMP released a ninth video — one that features StemExpress CEO Cate Dyer talking about the business of fetal trafficking, describing how Planned Parenthood is a “volume institution,” and how PP often gives StemExpress intact babies. There’s a lot to unpack from the video. One thing that should cause every abortion advocate to pause: Dyer says a lot of the fetuses she collects are infected. Hello women’s health? One thing’s for sure: While StemExpress and PP publically severed ties, the two are ideologically close. “If you’re not in the cause, they don’t need you around,” Dyer said. “They need champions, and if you’re not a champion, then you should go. That’s just, I don’t know — the clinics are very guarded, as they should be. Who do they let in their house; they want champions in their house.”

Some quotes courtesy of CMP (via DC Gazette). Note that “SE” refers to the Stem Express middle man company that buys  baby parts from Planned Parenthood and sells them to researchers.  “Buyer” refers to the CMP undercover person.

SE:    Realistically, if we were to do an agreement with you, what do we think you could get?
Buyer:   Volume-wise?
SE:    On specifically liver tissue, because that’s such an area of demand for us.
Buyer:    So liver, and what about intact specimens, just—?
SE:   Oh, yeah, I mean if you had intact cases, which we’ve done a lot, we sometimes ship those back to our lab in its entirety.    . . .

SE:   We’ll do testing on our side, so we’ll be able to see, you know. And sometimes we’ll find that it can be clinic-specific. I’ve seen really rampant, rampant problems with bacteria in certain clinics. [laughter] Some where you’re kind of in question of should they really, you know, [laughing]
Buyer:   Right.
SE:    I’ve seen staph come out of clinics.
Buyer:  Wow.   . . .

SE:    As you probably know, one of the issues with neural tissue, it’s so fragile. It’s insanely fragile. And I don’t even know—I was gonna say, I know we get requests for neural, it’s the hardest thing in the world to ship.
Buyer:   You do it as the whole calvarium.
SE:   Yeah, that’s the easiest way. And we’ve actually had good success with that.
Buyer:   Make sure the eyes are closed!
SE:   Yeah! [laughter] Tell the lab it’s coming!
Buyer:   Yeah.
SE:   They’ll open the box, go, ”Oh God!” [laughter] So yeah, so many of the academic labs cannot fly like that, they’re not capable.
Buyer:   Why is that? I don’t understand that. . . .

SE:    Oh yeah. And their lab techs freak out, and have meltdowns, and so it’s just like, yeah. I think, quite frankly, that’s why a lot of researchers ultimately, some of them want to get into other things. They want to look at bone marrow, they want to look at adipose- sort of adult human, kind of adult based sampling. They want to avoid publishing a paper that says it was derived from fetal tissue.  . . .

Buyer:    Are you seeing any trends between the independents versus Planned Parenthoods? Your breakdown right now, are things split pretty fifty-fifty?
SE: I think it probably is. I don’t know- it is different. I don’t think that one has more pro’s or con’s than the other. I mean, Planned Parenthood has volume, because they are a volume institution.


Ethics and usefulness of  aborted babies for research

Why research on aborted babies is wrong

“…those brains offered wonderful material, of mentally poor, deformities and early children’s diseases. Of course I accepted the brains. It really wasn’t my concern where they came from and how they were brought to me…”

That particular quote was said by Dr. Julius Hallervorden during the Nuremberg Trials. Dr. Hallervorden was a Nazi scientist who experimented on the brains of Jewish victims of the Holocaust.

Keep in mind that during that time it was perfectly legal under German law to kill Jews, thanks to the Nazi regime. Given it was legal to kill Jews, it seemed silly to Dr. Hallervorden to let their corpses go to waste. And indeed, Dr. Hallervorden and a colleague, Hugo Spatz (also a Nazi) discovered, through their research, Hallervorden-Spatz syndrome (now called Pantothenate kinase-associated neurodegeneration).

Note this particular article also deals with Dr Ben Carson’s response to allegations that he had participated in a study involving the use of aborted fetal tissue samples, “To not use the tissue that is in a tissue bank, regardless of where it comes from, would be foolish. Why would anybody not do that?”  We believe Carson has subsequently clarified his involvement and what he knew of the research subjects at the time.

The Ethics of Fetal Tissue Transplantation
Scott B. Rae writing for The Christian Research Institute (2009) offers a well researched and highly recommended article on the subject..

Additional reading:

Professor of Neurobiology: Why We Don’t Need Aborted Babies for Life-Saving Research

The Research Planned Parenthood Is Providing Organs for Is Increasingly Outdated, Researchers Say

Why We Don’t Need Fetal Cells to Conduct Life-Saving Research

Where’s The Proof Baby Tissue Trafficking Saves Lives?


Would it be right to hook up one of the later-day Mengeles  as such, for the good of science of course?

Of course we are not talking vivisection. That would be wrong.  Anyway, in a widely circulated book that predated Roe v Wade, Handbook on Abortion, Hiltz Publishing Co. 1971,  co-author Dr. John Willke, former President of the National Right to Life Committee and Life Issues Institute, circulated the photo and explanation of fetal experimentation set forth below. That revelation combined with reports of abhorrent practices in the U.S. helped generate laws banning or incentivizing abortion to obtain parts from aborted babies for research or commercial use. From the ethical levels revealed in the CMP videos so far, we have a hard time not believing Planned Parenthood and StemExpress  principles don’t long for the good old days.

fetal experiment Willke 71

 

Republican leadership’s response to medical ethical atrocity:

Congressman Upton has already showed how to expect leadership to deal with controversial issues…the now famous “Upton Poison Pill” rule  If there is an issue on which Republicans are on one side and Barack Obama is on the other, then drop it! Heck, Obama will shut down the government if the GOP takes a stand. We can’t have that.  Problem solved.

From Politico:   House GOP leaders desperate to avoid shutdown

An explosive confrontation brewing between the House Republican leadership and conservatives over Planned Parenthood is threatening to shut down the government for the second time in three years. And House GOP leaders have yet to settle on a strategy to avert it.

Desperate to avoid another closure, Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and his team would prefer to build bipartisan opposition to funding the group through a series of high-profile Congressional investigations. But, at this point, that seems unlikely to cut it with a bloc of House conservatives who have said they simply won’t vote for a large-scale spending plan that funds Planned Parenthood.

From Erick Erickson at Red State

Congressional Republicans To Keep Organ Harvesting Alive and Babies Dead

How much more do we need? What else must we obtain? We have videos of whole children being pulled from freezers. We have videos of an infant with a beating heart having his brain removed. We have videos of hands and legs and eyes. We have discussions about organ sales and demands.

Still the GOP will do nothing.

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One Response to Video 9; Ethics of baby parts business; Republican leadership’s irresolve

  1. Gus says:

    How could the GOP establishment be any clearer of its intent to “green light” the Obama agenda to the end? “High profile congressional investigations to build bi-partisan support”. It is impossible to believe that this guy (Speaker Boehner) is not intentionally conveying his utter contempt for the Republican base with this truly stupid statement . We need only look at the “bi-partisan support” which has been built by the “high profile congressional hearing” on Benghazi! And how about those “high profile” hearings on IRS illegality?

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